Paul Craig Roberts on the 9/11 10th Anniversary - GRTV Feature Interview 002

This week GRTV talks to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary Treasury, former editor of the Wall Street Journal, author and researcher, about the significance of 9/11 on the brink of the tenth anniversary of those events. We discuss the many points at which the official explanation of 9/11 do not mesh with the available evidence, the many experts who have raised their voices in dissent (and been silenced), and what our response to 9/11 teaches us about where we are heading as a society.

9/11 Ten Years Gone

9/11: NIST engineer John Gross denies WTC molten steel

nineeleven.co.uk: Where Banishment is an Honour

It will be helpful for the reader to gain some understanding as to who Gerald Bostock is in order to understand why I chose this as my nom de plume.

Really don't mind if you sit this one out
My word's but a whisper
Your deafness a shout
I may make you feel
But I can't make you think

This author was recently blocked from posting to and reading 9/11, the bigger picture and the quest for truth: The British (UK) 9/11 Truth Campaign portal, website and forums. Apparently this was for posting the following quoted text [Original found here]:

At the risk of being accused of discussing a forbidden topic by discussing the forbidding of the topic, I wish to share some observations about the recent change in policy on this forum. A review of recent posts should reveal what that policy change was.

I have to say that the very idea that some topics are too controversial for honest and sincere adults to discuss in public is arrogant, elitist, condescending and illiberal. One of the primary motives that drives me to participate in the 9/11 Truth movement is to oppose regimes that would impose restrictions on the free discussion of relevant information. I do not fear having my ideas and perceptions challenged. I believe that the Truth is stronger than lies. Indeed, that axiom is the unspoken foundation of Anglo-American civilization.

I know that I have been forbidden from speaking the Truth as I know it on this forum. This is a Truth that I sincerely believe is relevant to the stated mission of this forum. By forbidding this discussion the cognizant authorities are implicitly saying that I am wrong. In order for me to be wrong I must be either misinformed (unsound premises), logically in error (invalid argument) or simply lying.

Regarding the first two possibilities, I welcome the opportunity to be corrected. I am human and therefore can err. I do not wish to be mistaken or misinformed. To deny me that opportunity for correction is to deny me the ability to make informed and reasoned decisions. A state of ignorance and error is clearly hazardous to my well-being. Denying me this opportunity for correction is therefore a means of doing harm to me.

Regarding the last of the above listed possibilities, to wit, that I might be intentionally lying, that I take to be a serious charge against which I have a right to defend myself. To be accused of lying is harmful to a person's reputation and therefore his wellbeing.

To assert that a particular belief is incorrect implies that any person who professes that belief suffers from one or more of the above stated faults. It therefore does not matter that my actual identity is not known to the public. The harm resulting from denying me the freedom to honestly discuss the offending topic is done to all who share my beliefs.

Forbidding the honest discussion of a relevant topic is the quintessential act of intellectual tyranny. It is clear that several regular and sincere participants in this forum share my belief that the forbidden topic is relevant, and they also share my opinions regarding the facts involved.

I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Note that the post was originally to a newly created thread entitled Protecting me from dangerous ideas, but was moved by the moderator to the thread entitled No Holocaust discussion on this site. That was, however, my penultimate post. My final post was in the thread Jewish group applauds web censorship as follows:

ian neal wrote:

If you read the rules of this site you would know that hate speech is banned on this site

So when it is said, as the article does

“Clearly a line has to be drawn between freedom of speech, voicing of differing opinions – and material that just incites racial hatred, religious intolerance and violence. When that line is crossed, that material ought not to be freely available to all who log onto the web.”

I agree

And if you don't, you are on the wrong site. If I were you I would rush off and find a corner of cyber space that still allows the incitement of "racial hatred, religious intolerance and violence" and get busy while you still can.

Do you agree with this statement by Hillary Clinton?

To deny the Holocaust places the President of Iran in company with the most despicable bigots and historical revisionists. It is an insult not only to the memory of the millions of Jews who suffered and died in the Shoah, but also to the troops of the United States and its allies who, in the fight to liberate Europe from Nazism, bore witness to the reality of the Holocaust.

In addition to Gerald Bostock, other user names I used on nineeleven.co.uk were Alulim, Usama bin Laden and Hetware. Several of my most important posts relative to the dispute have been removed after persisting for days, weeks or even months.

Nil conscire sibi

9/11 Truth is Anti-Fascist - A Response to Mark Weitzman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center

Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war. We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle. First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today, and its task is a major one: it demonstrates in the clearest language, heard throughout the world including by our unfortunate brethren outside the gates of this country, our war against the occupier.~ Yitzhak Shamir

Thou shall not kill. ~ EXODUS 20:13

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. ~ EXODUS 20:16

What's up with the Simon Wiesenthal Center at the Harman hearings? That has to be the ultimate "Jews did 9/11" meme. Unfortunately, all of this generalization about "the Jews" or "the Zionists" appears to protect the suspected perpetrators because some of the leading suspects happen to be Jewish, and can therefore play the antisemitism card to thwart a serious investigation. Silverstein is not a suspect because he's Jewish. He's a suspect because his actions are suspicious. Lewis Paul Bremer III is Catholic, as far as we know, and he pretty much indicted himself when he showed up on TV at noon on 09/11/01 talking with objective detachment about terrorism in the abstract, 3 hours after two buildings housing the offices of 1700 of his employees were turned to dust. We're not anti-semitic, we're anti-billionaires who think it's OK to murder, en masse, the people who trust them the most, and use it as a pretext to wage a faux holy-war against one of the poorest countries in the world.

Yes, we believe some of these billionaires used their connections within the world Jewish community to perpetrate the attacks. But that doesn't mean we believe the attacks are representative of the Jewish people or of Israel. Richard Bruce Cheney isn't Jewish, and we believe he was integral to the 9/11 false flag operation. Lots of Jews died on 9/11, so we don't see how anybody can possibly blame it on "the Jews".

Most people don't realize that the Israeli far right has roots deep in fascist ideology. It's one of the dirty little secrets of history, but not only were the right-wing Zionists of the pre-state era very much birds of a feather with other fascists, they were also not averse to cutting deals with the likes of Hitler, at the expense of "their own" people.

This is a letter to the editor of the New York Times signed by a long list of prominent Jewish intellectuals condemning the fascist faction of the Zionist movement.

New York Times, December 4, 1948
TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:

Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States.
Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin’s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.

Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin’s behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.

The public avowals of Begin’s party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

Attack on Arab Village

A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants—240 men, women, and children—and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.

The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.

Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.

During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.

Discrepancies Seen

The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.

In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin’s efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.

The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

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ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ, HANNAH ARENDT, ABRAHAM BRICK, RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO, ALBERT EINSTEIN, HERMAN EISEN, M.D., HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D., H.H. HARRIS, ZELIG S. HARRIS, SIDNEY HOOK, FRED KARUSH, BRURIA KAUFMAN, IRMA L. LINDHEIM, NACHMAN MAISEL, SEYMOUR MELMAN, MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY, SAMUEL PITLICK, FRITZ ROHRLICH, LOUIS P. ROCKER, RUTH SAGIS, ITZHAK SANKOWSKY, I.J. SHOENBERG, SAMUEL SHUMAN, M. SINGER, IRMA WOLFE, STEFAN WOLFE.

And here is a revealing exposé on the fascist heritage of the f___ing stupidest guy on the face of the earth.

In October 1997, the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) honored [Douglas J.] Feith(pictured left) and his father, Dalck Feith, at its annual dinner. The organization praised the Feiths as "noted Jewish philanthropists and pro-Israel activists" and awarded Dalck a Centennial Award "for his lifetime of service to Israel and the Jewish people," while Douglas received the "prestigious Louis D. Brandeis Award." Before he immigrated to the United States during World War II, Dalck Feith was a militant member of Betar, a Zionist youth movement founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky, an admirer of Mussolini. Betar, whose members wore dark brown uniforms and spouted militaristic slogans modeled after other fascistic movements, was associated with the Revisionist Movement, which evolved in Poland to become the Herut (Tnuat Haherut) Party, which later became the Likud Party. (http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1146)

Quite to the contrary of what was artfully insinuated by Mark Weitzman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the 9/11 Truth movement is not fascistic antisemitism. We are anti-fascist. Something which the Simon Wiesenthal Center professes to be.

The connections between Benjamin Netanyahu, Larry Silverstein, Ronald S. Lauder and Uzi Arad are worthy of our attention. In this context.

Benjamin Netanyahu

(from left to right) Ronald S. Lauder, David Rockefeller, Gov. George Pataki, Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Lauder is a longtime personal friend of Netanyahu.

Uzi Arad, former Director of Intelligence for the Mossad and founding director of the Institute of Policy and Strategy (IPS) of the Ronald S. Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy and Strategy at the Interdisciplinary Center(IDC), Hertzliya Israel.

Larry Silverstein. A close personal friend of Netanyahu.

Reply to Libel Posted on 911blogger

Update: Sat Dec 8 07:14:51 EST 2007

911blogger has removed the offending post from their server. It remains on the author's personal blog:Black PR and proof of Paid Internet Shills

If 911blogger posts this, it will be deleted from the Vehmgericht Blog. For now it serves as an alternative medium.

Black PR and proof of Paid Internet Shills--and what to do about them

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To the 911blogger moderators: I understand that this borders on a violation of your policies. OTOH, I have been specifically identified by "Col. Jenny Sparks" in the above with the clear intent to insinuate that I am somehow being paid to participate in 9/11 forums with the objective of disrupting or of achieving some other nefarious end. Furthermore, I was banned from what 911blogger calls "our forum" for reasons which were never made clear, but my inference was that it was because I was banned from STJ911 and 911blogger. My read access is also blocked, so it is right to say the following was produced behind my back by participants on your forum where I have no recourse to defend myself. My name is Steven Thomas Hatton. My father James H. Hatton Jr. is in regular attendance at the dc911truth meetings, and can verify both my identity and the independence of my 9/11 work from any organization, private or government. I am not being paid for what I do, and the opinions I express are very much my own. I left a very good job with Northrop Grumman because I could not reconcile what I was doing with my values. I have been living off of a dwindling savings so that I might dedicate myself to determining what is behind 9/11 and similar crimes, and find a way to correct the problem. I love the United States of America, and I don't need anybody to pay me a bloody red cent to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I have the right to defend myself against the baseless libel promulgated in the following. My comments appear in [square brackets]

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Is the Oregon Truth Alliance "Grassroots" or "Astroturf"?
from Jenny's diary~

We're going to play "connect the dots". Whether it's fair or not, we are judged by our allies and supporters. Unless we go out of our way to qualify the relationship, people will make assumptions by association, whether explicit or implicit.

Below is a rough chart of associations cobbled together from the events of the past three weeks. It is by no means complete--just a beginning{EDIT--underscores show horizontal connections--the dashes are just to keep spacing. Sorry for any confusion!}:

---------------------------------------- Team Larouche

----Vermont Greens____?_____Lyndon Larouch
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----Bruce Marshall__________Webster Tarpley_____Jim Fetzer____NicoHaupt
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--------Craig Hill---------------------John Leonard----------Capt. Eric May
------------------------------------------------ |--------------------- |--- (Portland Nuclear Inquest)
-----------------------------------------Leland Lehrman-----Ginny Ross
-------------------------------------------|-------(Oregon Truth Alliance,PDX 911Truth Alliance)
---------------------------------------"Epimanes"[wrong]
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-----------------------------------------Dick Eastman

So let's analyze the players: ...
Webster Tarpley--once highly regarded 911 researcher. Now little more than a joke everyone is eager to forget. But it's hard will the following defending him--
[SEE this review by Amazon's 1# non-fiction reviewer: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0930852370 ]

..."Epimanes" a man

(or woman?) of many faces, that is "sock puppets". [Wrong. I just use different nyms on different servers, in different incarnations. Big deal. I've been doing this for years. I typically give signals to people so they can identify me in a different incarnation than they are familiar with.]

Banned from 911Blogger for linking to Holocaust denial sites to support his arguments.[Since I never did that, your assertion is nonsense. Unless you are talking about the link to the transcripts of the Nürnberg IMT: The Nuremberg War Crimes "Trials" . Furthermore, nobody has ever explained to me why I was banned, so how do you know? When I asked, the most informed answer I got was along the lines of "beats the sh!t out of me!"]

...Dick Eastman ... suggesting many of the 911 sites, including 911Blogger and Truthaction.org are run by government agents. [Healthy skepticism is always in order in an environment such as this. Did he specify whose government?]

What do all these people have in common? They ALL support and endorse the Kennebunkport Hoax and none of them believe Webster owes an apology for calling four of the alleged signers "Dahliar 4", among other insults. [Since I am named in your allegation, it is incumbent upon you to provide clear evidence to prove your claim, or to retract it. I will tell you right now, I have never had, so I have never expressed a conclusive opinion regarding the KW and who signed what or why.]

[...]Quote: FETZER: You'll like this Webster. I got an email from Captain Eric May--who's a retired Army intelligence officer--and one of the best and most astute critics of what is going on in relation to 9/11--who sent the following--" I believe that you"--he sent this to you, but I know you may not have seen it yet--"are right that the more prolific of our antagonists in the Kennebunkport Warning matter were professional agitators.
Take one example: Col. Jenny Sparks who was harrassing the Oregon Truth Alliance, led by Ginny Ross, and the Portland Nuclear Inquest, which I lead, in the weeks before the Kennebunkport meeting. In typical agitator fashion, she claimed to do so in order to defend the 911 Truth Movement and debunk our alarmist alerting Portland to the dangers--alerting Portland to the dangers of a nuclear simulation, Noble Resolve. She and cohorts infiltrated both group lists and threw monkey wrenches in every direction before getting the boot. As a lasting memorial of the encounter, they then set up their own user group made of a mixed set of a dozen agitators and useful idiots, largely dedicated to damning me and brow beating Ms. Ross. Every once in a while I read it for amusement."
Now, I think that those of 911Blogger need to wake up and smell the roses--the movement has been massively infiltrated, and they maybe unable to sort things out. One of the reasons being that is a closely closed operation on Blogger. They operate with a kind of group think, Webster, where anyone who veers outside of a certain narrowly defined channel of researches is assulted savagely, verbally on the list. [Curious.]

Soon after imgstake found this(Thank you, imgstake!), Mr. Lehrman got himself banned from Truthaction.org. And he's not the first to be banned over trying to mix Holocaust shite with 9/11. "Ephimanes" was banned from 9/11 Blogger soon after linking to this site: [see Sparks's post for the link.]

Now three people defending the KW hoax, who are also willing to associate themselves with various forms of anti-semitism, and try to mix it up with 9/11 Truth, sounds less like a coincidence and more like a strategy. But what could that be? [I merely referred interested 911blogger participants to a site where the off-topic discussion entered upon was topical.]

... Jews ... Jews ... Protocols of Zion .... Jews did 9/11 ...

Quote: TARPLEY: Now the other slander that we've got--and this is now the Berlet Brigade--Micheal Wosley joins in.
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Grassroots activism? We doubt it. The Oregon Truth Alliance...[Jenny, ol' boy, this is the other Washington. You know, between Maryland and Virginia.]

That tells us all we need to know.[Don't it though? Far's I know, Bremer isn't Jewish. But push that meme Jenny!]

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And now for something even more shocking. This appears in the same thread as the above, and was posted by Victoria Ashley:

victronix01

Post Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:04 am

FYI, Epimanes is someone who was working the Scholars forum and at this forum under the name "Tim Ossman." Someone I know located his connections to the pentagon and defense industry. He claimed to have left those, but it's unlikely he ever really did.

An interesting mixture and good to learn from -- a constant flow of tantilizing videos, factoids, observations, family history, DC & DoD experiences, etc., mixed with intense intermittent holocaust denial, mind control, personal attack[search STJ911 for "that's funny" and "Mathematica" to see what Vic's burned about.], support for Tarpley etc., making it easy for disruptors or unwitting forum participants to get sucked in and defend how important he was for his contributions, while in reality his purpose was to disrupt.

He really ramped up as the anniversary approached. [Whatever.]

Classic & formula.

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BTW, I have never met any of the people named above, other than my father, and I have never communicated with any of them save 1 or 2 unsubstantial emails.

Verifyable evidence of my identity.
Verify it.

Fire away Sparky! (Damn! I am too generous!)

Cassis tutissima virtis. Nil conscire sibi.